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HeroClix Logo1/12/2010: I had the following conversation with Wizkids yesterday, concerning the SHADOWLAX character...

TheLe:
Is there any Background information you can give me on SHADOWLAX? There's nothing out there on it.

WK:
it's an in-joke

WK:
Lax Chandra is our president. However here's another hint: there are three things on that page that aren't actual hints on upcoming items
1. Shadowlax
2. Mom's birthday
3. ...?

TheLe:
Thank you very much. My readers will look forward to hearing about ShadowLax. I suspect it's been driving them crazy as much as me (I've been contacting all my comic book geek friends looking for an origin)

WK:
No problem. the artist who did that page made the shadowlax as a joke, so we included it.

So what could third one be? You're guess is as good as mine!

1/9/2010: This was found inside the front page of GAME TRADE MAGAZINE, Issue #119 (close-ups are below):

HeroClix Game Trade Magazine

GTM Magazine closeup #1:

HeroClix Brave and Bold

So who the heck is SHADOWLAX? Is he a villain? Is he a hero? I guess we'll find out soon!

GTM Magazine closeup #2:
HeroClix Brave and Bold

GTM Magazine closeup #3:
HeroClix Brave and Bold


The following image was found in the PREVIEWS Magazine (available at your local comic store), on page 383.

HeroClix Brave and Bold

Toy News International reports "[Brave and the Bold] Featuring 55 new superhero and supervillian figures - including over 25 characters that have never before appeared in DC HeroClix.
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Your Comments (Note: We only display last 50 comments, but we have a record of all of them):
bought a case but i was not a fan of the set. playing them was horrible but sculpts are amazing

Posted by: bp29 on 11/3/2011 7:41:44 AM
I got a case and pulled 6 superares and 1 chase. When i pulled Nekron, i was so happy to get my first chase ever in heroclix.And i also got 9 pharodemons!

Posted by: tan29:) on 12/28/2010 8:25:21 PM
@steve C;
Pulled a power girl with clark kents base (but actually had the power girl sticker in it) and Jason Bloods card??? some one must have been having a laugh on the production line, not that bothered tho as the same booster had a correct power girl in it.
all in all i loved this set and im defo a marvel fan first and foremost.
Yay for league of assassin, not lost a game with them yet!

Posted by: Ste on 6/30/2010 8:05:19 PM
SHADOWLAX = NIGHTCRAWLER (methinks)

Posted by: ecchs on 6/7/2010 4:56:03 AM
so i split a brick with a friend after buying some boosters the previous week before and as we were opening up our first packs i said i wanted the flash duo if he pulled it and he wanted the gl ga duo and in our first packs he got what i wanted and i had what he wanted we also discussed chase figures and i called dibs so he could have the brick buster next pack i busted was a black lantern martian manhunter.....awesome

Posted by: mikesdaredevil on 5/30/2010 9:19:11 PM
wow just bought 3 boosters of the brave and the bold set got brainiac and lex twice and a metallo. i was very dissapointed :(

Posted by: bonez555666 on 5/28/2010 6:32:02 PM
Recieved my brick today of BB not impressed the 5 Amazon figures are dreadful sculps.
Power girl disappointing could have been bigger. The supers in suits was a nice touch and I liked Atom & Hawkman but overall standards have slipped.

Posted by: WillPower on 4/28/2010 8:00:16 AM
Has anyone else recieved figures without the dials, 2 goodness and mercy both without dials, I guess neca kept the same QC procedure as wizkids

Posted by: Steve C on 4/23/2010 3:59:36 PM
Well Le, one of his keywords is forgotten heroes. Doesn't seem like many people got the Flashes or Black Adam/Captain Marvel. This is the first set i probably wont get a brick from. There is some pieces that interest me, but overall eh. Hate the fact that the Black Lanterns are the chase figures, means it is going to be impossible to get them, especially with me being a huge GL fan. That is one of the good things about this set (Green Lantern) and the starter set.

Posted by: geminimerc on 4/21/2010 4:28:32 AM
Just opened my case last night. Pretty lackluster really. Didn't even get a complete CUR set (missing Black Flash.) No chase figures, of course. For SR I got Blue and Gold, Fire and Ice, Lantern and Arrow, Superman and Flash, Flash and Lantern, and Batman and Arrow. R duplicates of The Wizard Shazam, Kid Zoom, Inertia, Brainiac, Martian Manhunter, and Luthor and Brainiac. Very disappointing overall.

Posted by: FHiL on 4/20/2010 4:15:28 PM
Well, I finally got to open my case tonight. Pulled 2 of the SR's I wanted and easily completed the CUR set, so that's kinda cool. And since buying AT LEAST an entire case from every single heroclix release ever produced, I finally pulled my first chase figure! Kal-L made me lose every stitch of buyer's remorse I was feeling up until the point he was pulled. Sounds good? But I gotta think, if I had not pulled him or Martian Manhunter chase, I would still be feeling very disappointed in this set. If I had pulled no chase at all, after seeing these figures, I would probably want to vomit for spending the dough on a case of this product. Keep in mind, I'm only speaking of the asethetic quality and lack of unique sculpts, and character selection overall, not playability (I don't ever get to play so....)Especially the sculpts. Lex and Brainiac, for being a rare, really blows, IMO. And I haven't seen the original, and I know how good they can look from the original sculpt only to be ruined by the cheap plastic used in molding plus the cheap labor used to paint these figures doesn't help either, but WTH is up with that Brainiac?? And really, no single sculpt stands out to me as Wo0t!!-worthy, but I haven't had the chance to see them all in-hand, or study the ones I now own, as I had to rush off to work immediately after cracking that case. Maybe Inertia/Kid Zoom, or the other Brainiac in the set, but as for now, "yuk-o" on how production turned out on these sculpts. A huge "thumbs down" from me (and a happy 1 thumb up for Kal-L!!)

Posted by: machineman on 4/18/2010 12:57:03 AM
I played for the first time at a supposed prerelease. I have purchaesd figures before so was not completely ignorant of what to do. Not 1 of the figures I got in my two boosters had a stat line worth the plastic paper it was printed on, all were KOd with 1 hit. Some players were cooing over Black Flash and Ras Al Ghoul but they were complete let downs on the table. In three games I took out only 1 model worth 19pts. The abilities do not play the way they are written and I was being told of abilitites I supposedly had with no way for me confirm either way. Needless to say I traded ALL the figures from the new set to others as quickly as possible and I will not purchase any more. How the hell is this game meant to interest new players?

Posted by: noob on 4/16/2010 12:37:20 AM
Zack: I'm working on a new article detailing all the prize information. This will allow you and other readers to see all the info in one single location.

Whitebatlantern: I'm sorry this is the case. Please know that chase figures have always been a part of the system since the Marvel zombies were first introduced. As a matter of fact, there's been 4 chases in past sets, so this is not a new precedence.

Posted by: The Le on 4/15/2010 9:10:41 AM
BATB came out yesterday and,for the first time since I started heroclix,I did not pre-pay for at least a brick.Let me explain:I am,by nature,a completist (that's pc for OCD to the nth degree).While I love my figures,and DC being my sentimental favorite,I just don't see how I have any realistic chance of completing this set:4 chase figures?

Posted by: whitebatlantern on 4/15/2010 4:44:02 AM
Well got my case and I'm happy I was proven wrong. Most doubles I got were minions so suddenly the doubles are a boon. I'm actually kinda liking the psudo-REV revival, I do wish we had more figures in the set to kinda off set the sameness of the pieces but I got no real complaints. Sound and fury signifying nothing.

Posted by: Crazy Bee on 4/15/2010 1:36:25 AM
Does anybody know what the other power batterys do?

Posted by: Zack on 4/14/2010 11:47:34 PM
I pre-ordered 1 brick and was happy to say I had very few doubles in my fifty got 3 super-rares including Fire/Ice Lantern/Arrow Flash/Lantern & on top of all that a chase Black Hand and my friend ended up with the chase Kal-el, so I call that an over all good day

Thanks NECA and good job so far! (new website looks great)

Posted by: Emeraldknight on 4/14/2010 11:43:40 PM
OK, All the figs were AMAZING!. We cracked 16 bricks at our midnight party out of the 36 I pre-ordered. Everyone ended up with the same figs for trade unfortunately. And getting ONLY 1 chase, (nekron), in all of those bricks SUCKS. Especially since I now see 4 chases on e-bay(SUCKS). So I how many chases are left in the remaining 20 bricks????? ANYHOOOO, everyone STILL had a BLAST, and NOBODY was unhappy with the set AT ALL! Well except for yours truly when I got my a** handed to me for rolling a superman/flash and green lantern/flash 400 pt CHEESE team, (and I HATE cheese so it serves me right). But I still LOVED the sculps and dials. You must now excuse me, for I need to study the FCBD WAR MACHINE and IRON MAN ARMOR WARS heroclix that just arrived in my shop ;))).............tony

Posted by: tonyskingdom on 4/14/2010 4:29:07 PM
@tonyskingdom and others:
Hey guys lets hear from you who opened boosters at midnight! What are your impressions now that you've opened up more product?

Posted by: machineman on 4/14/2010 3:30:58 AM
To all you snivelers out there who think you will getting tons of doubles in your bricks, I am a comic/game shop owner, and I just cracked a brick for display, and to see if all the whining was justified. I see only 5 duplicates out of 50 pieces, 4 SR and 9 R. I favor Marvel MUCH more, but this set is AWESOME, and the pieces look even better than I thought. All my guys and gals are gonna have a BLAST at our MIDNIGHT CRACK A BRICK party tonight. We will be trading and playing till well after 3 Im sure. And it gets me even MORE worked up for future sets!

Posted by: tonyskingdom on 4/13/2010 4:28:20 PM
I dread seeing Cave Carson on any Batman/ Gotham City teams or Skrull teams. He'll have the whole board covered in hindering terrain markers ... lol.

Posted by: Bretsports2 on 4/13/2010 2:34:32 PM
I have been playing since year 1 of Heroclix. I also prefer DC to Marvel. That being said, this is the most awful set I have ever seen ... by a long shot. 23 of 55 are generics. 8 are for a new game mechanic (AE) which will be a seldom used "gimmick". 2 Talias, 2 Robins, 2 Kid Zooms. A handful of characters I've never even heard of, like Cave Carson, etc. so another 4 slots down. That's 41 of 55 .. 74.5% of the set. OH yeah! The rest that are interesting are ALL super rare or chase figures (and most of those are the failed experiment "Duo" figures). I have supported this game financially, and as a judge for over 6 years, this is just horrible. Now, I am still buying a brick to support clix, but trust me, that is the ONLY reason I am buying that much of this set. This set is absurd. I'm not blaming anyone in particular. I have no idea how much of this set was up to TOPPS or NECA. I sure hope they read all of these posts and do something different. This is just unacceptable. Clix came back with a BOOM with HoT, and has now fizzled with BatB. Hopefully they can recover.

Posted by: Bretsports2 on 4/13/2010 2:28:10 PM
Webslilnger14, I have absolutely no idea who CAVE CARSON is, but I do believe that this is one of the BEST dials we have seen in a long time. The guy can carry with phasing, and drops hindering everywhere he goes (with Willpower to boot). As a utility piece he's one of the best for a paltry 24 points. Again, I have no idea who he is, but gosh I absolutely love that dial!

Posted by: The Le on 4/13/2010 12:57:08 PM
Wow, this is sort of,...disappointing. Not a huge DC fan myself, but usually I at least know most of the characters. Cave Carson? Who the heck is Cave Carson? I mean if the dial was good ok, but wow, this is what they give us after a set like Hammer of Thor. Big let down.

Posted by: Webslinger14 on 4/13/2010 12:08:50 PM
It looks like an interesting map. It looks like a good map for stealthy characters. Also, Cave Carson becomes Gravedigger Carson...

Hey, Wizkids! Put the maps back in the cases! Making them part of prize support means many (most?) of us will never own these.

Posted by: Miraclo on 4/13/2010 12:03:23 PM
wow very very poor characters. not one fig i want in there.the fake disnep clix look more fun then this.

Posted by: ikari on 4/13/2010 10:26:32 AM
No Superboy? No Duo w Krypto? I thought that would have been a given. I duo of Superman and Superboy would have been outstanding.

Posted by: Goodquestion on 4/13/2010 9:16:47 AM
@Crazy Bee

Ya it sucks def not a generic fan but dont regret ordering my case its just more trade fodder possibilities cuz someone will want those generic (SOMEONE BETTER WANT THEM) cuz if not someone F'd up and I say REVOLUCION

Posted by: refrusdraob on 4/13/2010 12:56:13 AM
Only regret I have was Marvel Sinister. Man, that still leaves burned taste in my mouth. I'll take the Brave and the Bold dials any day!

Posted by: The Le on 4/13/2010 12:56:03 AM
55 figures in this set and at least 13 are alternate paint jobs. Starting to feel regret about ordering a case. Anyone else feeling the same way?

Posted by: Crazy Bee on 4/12/2010 11:56:44 PM
001 – Bruce Wayne
002 – Clark Kent
003 – Diana Prince
004 – League Assassin (League Assassin Sculpt w/ Grey Robes)
005 – Amazon (Amazon Sculpt w/ Silver Armor)
006 – Checkmate Pawn White (Checkmate Pawn Sculpt w/ White Vest)
007 – Checkmate Knight White (Checkmate Knight Sculpt w/ White Vest)
008 – Parademon Grunt (Parademon Grunt w/ Blue/Green trim)
009 – The Atom and Hawkman
010 – Jason Blood
011-League Elite (League Assassin Sculpt w/ Red Robes)
012 – Amazon of Bana-Mighdall (Amazon Sculpt w/ Gold Armor)
013 – Checkmate Pawn Black (Checkmate Pawn Sculpt w/ Grey Vest)
014 – Chackmate Knight Black (Checkmate Knight Sculpt w/ Grey Vest)
015 – Parademon Drill Sergeant (Parademon Grunt w/ Red/Brown trim)
016 – Batman
017 – Superman
018 – Wonder Woman
019 – Talia (with Supes AND Bats TA
020 - Damain Wayne
021 - The Holiday Killer
022 – Cave Carson
023 – Max Mercury
024 – Mikron O’Jeneus
025 – Goodness and Mercy
026 – The Sensei (League Assassin Sculpt w/ Purple Robes)
027 – Phillipus (Amazon Sculpt w/ Dark Skin and Gold Armor)
028 – Pawn 502 (Checkmate Pawn Sculpt w/ Silver Vest)
029 – Mademoiselle Marie (Checkmate Knight Sculpt w/ Silver Vest)
030 – The Parademon (Parademon Grunt w/ White trim)
031 – Brainiac
032 – Kryptonite Man
033 – Metallo
034 – Ra’s Al Ghul
035 – Power Girl
036 - martian manhunter
037 - Extant
038 – Inertia
039 – Etrigan
040 – Lex Luthor and Brainiac
041-Talia Al Ghul (en violet même desing que la 19)
042 - Robin
043 - kid zoom
044 – Black Flash
045 – The Wizard Shazam!
046 - Batman et green arrow
047 – The Flashes
048 - Green lantern et flash
049 – Superman and the Flash
050 – Fire and Ice
051 – Green Lantern and Green Arrow
052 Blue Beetle & Booster Gold
053 Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy
054 Mister Miracle & Oberon
055 Shazam & Black Adam

#056 Black Hand (LE)
#059 Nekron (LE)
#100 Batman and Catwoman (BiBtB, avec règle duo
101 – Bru

Posted by: Algan on 4/12/2010 4:39:46 PM
#48 is green lantern and the flash

Posted by: Goober on 4/12/2010 3:54:32 PM
What happened to the Harley and Poison Ivy duo in the set list?

Posted by: Illiniwek on 4/12/2010 3:36:04 PM
I enjoy the battlefield promotions and I still am looking forward to BATB set but I think if we are going back to the R/E/V style of play we should also be bringing the amount of characters we have the ability to receive back up. If you have been playing as long as me, you remember when they dropped the character amount and the R/E/V concept, I was upset but it ended up being a good thing, but now that we are reversing the situation I think we deserve more character options back.

Posted by: Emeraldknight on 4/12/2010 12:28:12 AM
I like the battlefield promotion. I'm thinking of a custom-mini take on that with a outwit battle white vs black, Terrific vs.Lord etc with some form of bonus. Now I so need a white lantern.

Posted by: okuritoe on 4/10/2010 6:49:06 PM
Zack, the Lanterns are part of the prize kits that venues can order. The only exception is the BLACK LANTERN, which was given out for free to all venues that pre-ordered.

Posted by: The Le on 4/10/2010 12:01:22 PM
Time. Its amazing, I started to think i didnt want this set but given time to think about it i think this will be one of the more intersting sets to play. I do hope in the future they include more complete teams within a set like Crisis did ala the metal men and most of the titansl

Posted by: battlinbichon on 4/10/2010 11:36:30 AM
How can you get those lanters?

Posted by: Zack Ziarko on 4/10/2010 10:54:33 AM
@BOB i asked that along time ago know one knows why....

Posted by: refrusdraob on 4/9/2010 1:35:52 PM
The mystery figure is the Holiday Killer from the Paul Dini & Tim Sale & Jeph Loeb comic Batman: The Long Halloween. If you read the trade you are given the later impression that the Holiday Killer is several people including Harvey Dent but we are never entirely sure. The idea is to eliminate the Falcone mob family on the Halloween holidays.

Posted by: David TG Riches on 4/9/2010 11:36:36 AM
why is black hand on a nekron base......................with that said how do u know its an accurate dial......................still waitin for batmobile!!!

Posted by: bob on 4/9/2010 10:27:41 AM
power girl sucks so bad.............horrible attack values like that for 199 is a NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: hal jordan on 4/9/2010 10:21:11 AM
Ugh. More REV styled pieces with the different Amazons...

Posted by: FHiL on 4/8/2010 5:05:26 PM
hmm...looked at the "mega" map did anyone else see extant and kryptonite man?

Posted by: chesire2050 on 4/8/2010 4:43:59 PM
@fliman

The Holiday Killer.... 43pts 8range 1bolt

uncommon color tab

Posted by: refrusdraob on 4/8/2010 4:24:03 PM
Can someoene understand the name of the new figure posted on page 9?

Posted by: fliman on 4/8/2010 3:30:43 PM
@scourge101 The BaB boosters and Blackest night starters are also on e-bay, for PRE-ORDER! As I stated before, only RETAILERS who attended GAMMA got the Nekron and Black Hand figs, and I have found that retailers who pre-ordered enough cases of BaB have, (or will, I was informed mine will ship with all my BaB cases and prize support on Tues 13th), get the Black Lantern objects. So your buddy must have purchased his from one of these retailers. It is VERBOTEN for a licensed retailer to sell any gaming merchandise before the manufacturers "street date".

Posted by: tonyskingdom on 4/7/2010 6:27:01 PM
When the first images were released for The Brave and the Bold I was excited. The Batman/Catwoman BibtB figure looked great, as did the Flashes, Captain Marvel/Black Adam, Harley and Ivy. Sadly, NECA/Wizkids showed us the coolest looking pieces first in an attempt to boost pre-order sales, which seems pretty obvious with how terrible some of the newer images look (the Parademons, Ra's, Fire and Ice, Green Arrow and Green Lantern, Mercy, Talia, Damian.) The Black Hand and Nekron chases are cool, I guess, but I don't like them being chases in the Brave and the Bold set, they should have been included in the Blackest Night starter or Brightest Day. And please don't get me started on this new REV movement they're trying, a 55 figure set just turned into maybe 40 different characters between the REV's and the AE's.

Posted by: FHiL on 4/7/2010 6:12:50 PM
Well they are on Ebay and i have seen the necron figure in hand after was purchased by a guy I play weekly with.

Posted by: scourge101 on 4/7/2010 5:21:24 PM
owning a "BRICK AND MORTAR" comic/gaming shop I have not received ANY chase, BBTB, etc figures or "PRIZE SUPPORT" pieces. I know whoever attended GAMMA were presented with the NEKRON and BLACK HAND pieces. Since I deal with several distributors, not NECA/WIZKIDS directly, I can only assume that is where some shops are getting them.

Posted by: tonyskingdom on 4/6/2010 6:20:22 PM